Validity of Online Relationships
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It's a failing that I have that I don't put much stock in online relationships. I seem to feel that anyone I have contact with online is an acquaintance and I withhold from forming any deep attachment to people. I don't IM strangers, and when people I don't know IM me, I usually discourage them from contacting me again. I am civil, but distant. The thought of actually falling in love w/someone I met online is absurd to me. More and more, though, this electronic medium is how people communicate.
It's even more bizarre because one of my best friends, Ann, aka The Rat, and I have maintained a long-distance friendship via snail-mail and e-mail for 18 years. That's a long fucking time. Lisa & I have been IRL friends for years, and have been blog/e-mail friends for just as long. I've been posting, and reading, some of your posts for 5 years. That's a long time to consider someone an acquaintance.
A friend of mine on here has PTSD and it's hard for her to be physically close to people. A lot of her IRL friends get mad at her because she's not physically around, she doesn't go out, she doesn't host get-togethers... and no one around her can seem to accept that she's honestly, genuinely sick, that PTSD is a real disorder, with real symptoms, and it hampers her from doing things she once enjoyed.
I can kind of relate (even if it's far less disabling than PTSD) because of my constant depression (and honestly, after spending the past 7 years on the Strip, I'm kind of burned out on being around people. I want to spend a lot of time alone. My cube here at my new job is a safe haven of separation for me and this past week has been killing me because I've been stuck in another department with people who resent my presence, which is a lot like being at the Excalibur. I've also discovered that when school is in session, that's all I can concentrate on - work and school. Even when I'm at work, I'm taking my assignments with me to work on during lunch... Even WoW goes away). My depression and the resulting reclusiveness have been getting worse over the years, and I am never happy or energetic. I'm always tired and achey and I lack patience and snap at people. I don't think it's fair to anyone to have to put up with my shit. Rob puts up with a lot from me, and he still thinks I'm the best person he'll ever get, and that just makes me feel even worse. I can't imagine what it must be like for him knowing that he can never make me happy, and he doesn't understand when I tell him it's not his job to make me happy. I'm either going to get around to getting help with my broken brain and maybe get better, or I'm going to continue down this path until I finally get to the point where I decide to risk suicide, and it's not his fault because I was this way before I met him. So when I think about all that he has to put up with from me and because of me, I don't want to push that on anyone else. Especially because realistically, my life is not that bad. I have a job, I have a roof over my head, the lights are on and there are people I know who have things way rougher than I do. A lot of people I know, like Jody, constantly complain about their lives - their health, their money, their love lives, and sometimes in person or on the phone, I just don't have the sympathy to handle it in a compassionate manner. Online, though, I can think things through, I can edit my initial responses, and I can be open and truthful without being hurtful.
I have been noticing, mainly here on livejournal, I have developed feelings of attachment to a good number of people. I miss them when they don't post for awhile. I worry about their health and life circumstances... I get kind of butt-hurt when no one responds to any of my posts while I make the effort to respond to theirs. I feel bad for them when they go through rough times, and I get angry when I hear that people have hurt them. I'm starting to think that having friends that are solely online friends is plausible and may even be possible, and quite fulfilling.
So please, if you feel I've been holding you off at arms length, or you'd like me to e-mail you instead of lurking around on lj, let me know. Or if you want my e-mail addy you can message me through lj's message system. I gotta admit, I deleted all my IM programs because I rarely use them but I could probably be persuaded into reloading trillian into my computer.
It's even more bizarre because one of my best friends, Ann, aka The Rat, and I have maintained a long-distance friendship via snail-mail and e-mail for 18 years. That's a long fucking time. Lisa & I have been IRL friends for years, and have been blog/e-mail friends for just as long. I've been posting, and reading, some of your posts for 5 years. That's a long time to consider someone an acquaintance.
A friend of mine on here has PTSD and it's hard for her to be physically close to people. A lot of her IRL friends get mad at her because she's not physically around, she doesn't go out, she doesn't host get-togethers... and no one around her can seem to accept that she's honestly, genuinely sick, that PTSD is a real disorder, with real symptoms, and it hampers her from doing things she once enjoyed.
I can kind of relate (even if it's far less disabling than PTSD) because of my constant depression (and honestly, after spending the past 7 years on the Strip, I'm kind of burned out on being around people. I want to spend a lot of time alone. My cube here at my new job is a safe haven of separation for me and this past week has been killing me because I've been stuck in another department with people who resent my presence, which is a lot like being at the Excalibur. I've also discovered that when school is in session, that's all I can concentrate on - work and school. Even when I'm at work, I'm taking my assignments with me to work on during lunch... Even WoW goes away). My depression and the resulting reclusiveness have been getting worse over the years, and I am never happy or energetic. I'm always tired and achey and I lack patience and snap at people. I don't think it's fair to anyone to have to put up with my shit. Rob puts up with a lot from me, and he still thinks I'm the best person he'll ever get, and that just makes me feel even worse. I can't imagine what it must be like for him knowing that he can never make me happy, and he doesn't understand when I tell him it's not his job to make me happy. I'm either going to get around to getting help with my broken brain and maybe get better, or I'm going to continue down this path until I finally get to the point where I decide to risk suicide, and it's not his fault because I was this way before I met him. So when I think about all that he has to put up with from me and because of me, I don't want to push that on anyone else. Especially because realistically, my life is not that bad. I have a job, I have a roof over my head, the lights are on and there are people I know who have things way rougher than I do. A lot of people I know, like Jody, constantly complain about their lives - their health, their money, their love lives, and sometimes in person or on the phone, I just don't have the sympathy to handle it in a compassionate manner. Online, though, I can think things through, I can edit my initial responses, and I can be open and truthful without being hurtful.
I have been noticing, mainly here on livejournal, I have developed feelings of attachment to a good number of people. I miss them when they don't post for awhile. I worry about their health and life circumstances... I get kind of butt-hurt when no one responds to any of my posts while I make the effort to respond to theirs. I feel bad for them when they go through rough times, and I get angry when I hear that people have hurt them. I'm starting to think that having friends that are solely online friends is plausible and may even be possible, and quite fulfilling.
So please, if you feel I've been holding you off at arms length, or you'd like me to e-mail you instead of lurking around on lj, let me know. Or if you want my e-mail addy you can message me through lj's message system. I gotta admit, I deleted all my IM programs because I rarely use them but I could probably be persuaded into reloading trillian into my computer.
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Date: 2008-07-17 11:21 pm (UTC)My last emo post about people not talking to me was purely because I was actively trying to keep in communication ( more than once a week) and its like I couldnt get any responses back. It was frustrating because the persons in question would go on and on about how much they missed me..blah blah but cant write an email back. My life is full of kids and Ive very little time for just me. My friends are the only thing that helps me get out of my 'mommy' mindset and into just being Lisa.
Ive been pretty reclusive myself and Im trying to open up again but some people just arent worth my time. As far as you and I are concerned, I never thought you and I could really hang out together anymore anyways. Its not because you hate me or I hate you. Youve got Rob and Ive all my kids..two things that we both have a hard time tolerating. I figured one day when Rob is dead and my kids are out of the house..we would finally go on a trip or something. :D I wouldnt subject you to talking on a chat client since I can only be around during the daylight hours anyways.
I will admit Im guilty of reading and not commenting so I will get better at that since I know it does take some effort to post. Im sorry for lurking so much.. I love you alot. I know its weird since we hardly talk person to person but maybe that is the charm of it between us. If we talked too much, we might just get irritated with one another since we are both old ladies now ;p
Postal Blues
Date: 2008-07-18 12:07 am (UTC)Well, you see all the bizarre crap I ramble on about. My blog is mostly just me & the voices in my head. And here I can be opinionated and let it all out because, hey, it's my blog. At least you do have living beings around you to create commentary on.
I figured one day when Rob is dead and my kids are out of the house... we would finally go on a trip or something.
Will we wear matching purple pantsuits?
I wouldnt subject you to talking on a chat client since I can only be around during the daylight hours anyways.
Yeah, for me weekend days are about the only time when I'd be able to be online, and I've been struggling to be productive on my weekends. To think that sometimes I do peel my ass off my chair & back away from the computer, lol.
Anywell, I hope all is well & peaceful on your home turf. Stay safe if not completely sane :)
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Date: 2008-07-18 02:21 am (UTC)I am very grateful to people like yourself and some of my other close online friends. Supremely grateful.
And you've made me happy plenty of times, even with your tiredness and general unhappiness. *hugs*
Thanks!
Date: 2008-07-19 01:48 am (UTC)